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• GemmalGD June 26, 2010 at 12:45 a.m.

  I believe that it is completely wrong to wear fur. An animal has been killed and skinned for fashion, and by wearing fur you are flaunting around that fact. It is very unnecessary and a disgusting 'luxury' of clothing for some.

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• Lukas21344 June 23, 2010 at 2:55 p.m.

  As thought of a aligator farm , they shootem' skinnem' lovvem'. but all thoughts on that I dissagree! You only want one becuase then you will think your rich , thats not true! why do you have to be killing our animals for clothes?! we have enough cotton trees to go around! You dont really like it becuase its wrong and you can where a tuxito instead! People just think its So that and So this! but what If animals wear our skin?! wouldent you be shocked to death?! I know this comment doesent mean alot to the world but guess what? it matters to me! and thats all that goes! im happy! but i hope people see this as a change in your life! >:(

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• meg419 June 5, 2010 at 10:48 a.m.

  I see fur as a completely unnecessary fashion item - that doesn't even look good!

  The trade of animals being killed simply for their fur disgusts me, especially when you learn that the majority of the time the skinners don't even make sure the animal is properly dead before taking their valuable skin.

  It is all about money unfortunately like most of the problems in our world and as people continue to buy fur the supply and demand chain, which prevents this cruel trade from dying out, is maintained.

  I would like to say that there is no such thing as ethical fur, and in the case of mink etc... I believe this to be true. But in regards to cows and leather, I feel it is right for us to make as much use out of an animal as possible after it has been slaughtered for its meat. Therefore I feel that it is more ethical to use and wear the leather produced by the meat industry than it is to throw it away, as doing so would make waste of an animal's life.

  I would also like to say, in response to Thumper's February 2010 comment, that people who wear their deceased pets are weird and even though the fur is obtained ethically I still think it raises some issues. You don't see people carrying around their deceased relatives teeth as a fashion item do you? They are buried as a whole and pets deserve the same respect.

  Anyone who wears fur, no matter wear it came from, is sending the message that it is fashionable and acceptable to kill animals for their fur! And this is wrong!

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• smithlily55 June 3, 2010 at 11:21 a.m.

  i think poachers who kill animals for their fur and tusks are horrible people and should be arrested. its not fair to the animals. they deserve to be free. and people in bangladesh are killing cows for leather to import to the EU. The chemicals they use to clean the leather just get dumped in the buriganda river and it kills all the fish in the river. this needs to stop. not only is your guilt killing you, you are killing innocent animals. :(

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• charliedebz April 19, 2010 at 8:20 p.m.

  This is the one subject where I have NO TOLERANCE. No, NO, there is NOT possible to buy ethical fur. Not now, not ever. There is no possible excuse for people in the UK, USA, or any other rich, temperate countries to wear fur. I would spit on someone who wears fur - I don't normally force my animal rights opinions on others, but with fur its just sick and unnecessary. I've seen the behind the scenes videos...I was actually crying for hours, I still can't get those images out of my head...No animal deserves to die that way. If everyone in the UK was forced to sit down and watch those videos, they wouldn't wear it. At least, my hope in humanity says they wont.

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• owls March 8, 2010 at 5:36 p.m.

  i think it is horendus that people would just walk around in the streets wearin somthink that was liveing a coule of weeks later , i would never ever think of waering fur and for the people who do i think there evil. they never think about the animal all they probley thnk of is that its fashinable. take crowella divil of 101 dalmations (yes i know its a cartoon movie but im trying to prove a point!) i hate watching that movie everytime because i feel for the puppies, so therefore i think it is silly to wear fur becasue how would they like it if they were skinned and put on a fashion line im sure they would dislike it sooo much!! love owls xx

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• animalrspca February 10, 2010 at 4:36 p.m.

  I would never wear fur. Its terrible what actually happens. Killed just for their fur to be worn as some sort of fashion accessory nothing is earned from it just a innocent animals life lost!

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• Thumper February 5, 2010 at 1:38 p.m.

  I've never worn fur myself, and never will. I'm not against other people wearing fur; I'm against animals being killed for their fur.

  Technically, it is ethical if the animal dies naturally and is not killed. It does sound ridiculous to actually kill something just for it's fur. And that's because it is ridiculous!

  Our college class took part in making a short film for an anti-fur company a couple of years ago. One kid in the class said that we shouldn't go against fur if we're not against leather or meat. While I agree it's wrong to think some species are more important than others, I think the point he missed was how useless fur is compared to meat and leather. When produced organically, meat can be part of a healthy balanced diet, and even though not a necessity, leather has many uses and you can get quite a lot of it from just one animal - which also happens to be an animal farmed for meat anyway.

  I don't buy products made from dead animals, but realize that other people do, and if you must kill an animal then I think it's important to use every part of the animal. Whereas I've seen scarves made out of 2 mink pelts. 2 whole lives lost just to make one little scarf. Not very impressive, is it?

  I've heard of people making fur accessories out of their pets that have passed away. There's no way I could ever wear my pets, but the way they got the fur is actually ethical. They didn't kill the animals, and they want something to remember them by. Fair enough if they want to do this, but it's something I personally wouldn't do.

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• anilove October 25, 2009 at 11:17 p.m.

  there is not such as thing as ethical fur unless you are talking about imitation

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• anilove October 25, 2009 at 11:14 p.m.

  fur? don't animals look great in it? why take it from them? money is the evil of all trades, how cruel humans have been and still are, while there is money to be made of animals there will always be animal cruelty. governments need to educate people and ban such practices but they don't because they also cash in on taxes impose in the produce and sale of goods, animals or otherwise. i wound not watch it because i can imaging how bad and disturbing it was

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• tattooedgirlie September 20, 2009 at 11:59 p.m.

  PETA NEEDS YOU!!
  Come participate in a fun, one-of-a-kind demonstration on Saturday, 3 October, to urge Selfridges to stop selling foie gras
  To create foie gras - French for "fatty
  liver" - up to 2 kgs of a mixture of grain, maize and fat is pumped into
  the stomachs of ducks and geese through a pipe two or three times a day for
  three weeks. As the birds' livers become diseased and expand to up to 10 times
  their normal size, the animals become sick, and many are unable to move. The
  pipes sometimes puncture the birds' throats, which may cause them to bleed to
  death.
  Foie gras production is banned in the UK and more
  than a dozen other countries. More than 60 per cent of Britons believe that foie
  gras sales should also be banned. Not one supermarket will sell foie gras in
  the UK. Foie gras has also been pulled from the shelves of House of Fraser,
  Prince Charles has banned it from Royal menus and the Pope has denounced it as
  cruel.
  We'd like to make this demonstration as
  large and noticeable as possible. Won't you please join?
  The demonstration will take place outside Selfridges at 400 Oxford Street at 11 am and last for 30 minutes. However, we will meet in a location close to (but not in front of) Selfridges at 9:45 am sharp to talk through the event.
  Our goal is to get 100 compassionate people out for this eye-catching demonstration. Each participant will be given a duck mask to represent the ducks and geese who are used to make the fois gras sold at Selfridges. Some people will also hold signs, while others will distribute leaflets.
  It's important that you please RSVP writing to RoseG@peta.org.uk with "Birdie" in the subject line of your e-mail. The meeting location, dress code, lyrics of the chant, instructions on the dance and other fun details will be sent (to people who RSVP) closer to the date of the demonstration.

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• baggley999 August 29, 2009 at 1:16 p.m.

  Good point!

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• ZDrache August 27, 2009 at 3:26 p.m.

  Just pointing out.
  There are some companies that only buy and sell fur from countries with animal welfare standards, such as the British Fur Trade Association.
  Also, in New Zealand there are a lot of possum, which is a threat to the ecosystem. The possum have to be culled anyway, so why not use the fur? Check out Vulpecula.

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• pegasus August 16, 2009 at 9:47 p.m.

  pawzdannii, those people your comment is aimed at are unlikely to be reading this at all. And fur production sadly goes far beyond the fur being shaved off the animal, which I'm sure you know already. It can't be compared with a shaven head.

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• pawzdannii August 10, 2009 at 7:28 p.m.

  please think about it people who like to wear real fur how would you like it if your head was shaved and the animals got to WEAR YOUR HAIR AS A SCARF NOT NICE EH

  EXACTLY!!!!

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• korky August 3, 2009 at 10:14 a.m.

  My comment is very short
  UGLY PEOPLE WEARING BEAUTIFUL ANIMALS

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• pegasus July 29, 2009 at 8:54 p.m.

  "people these days who are cruel to animals should be locked up and never ever let out again and should be left to die."

  Animal_Luver, I seriously suggest you think about what you've written here. You're implying that a fellow human being (although admittedly calling them 'human' is questionable) should be left to rot in prison. Yes, it is cruel, yes, it is heartless and cold, but to suggest someone should die for it is equally misguided and somewhat disturbing.

  To care about animals, we must be able to care about people, too. Otherwise, we're nothing but hypocrites.

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• x..Animal luver..x July 27, 2009 at 8:45 p.m.

  I think wearing an animals unique and beautiful coat is absoloutely DISGUSTING behaviour and i cant believe people actually wear it. People these days have so many clothes, why on earth should an animal be killed so someone else can wear their fur? ABSOLOUTELY REPULSIVE! ITS DISPICIBLE THAT PEOPLE COULD EVEN DO THAT TO A PRECIOUS, GORGEOUS ANIMAL! HOW COULD THEY?? U'VE GOT ENOUGH CLOTHES U DONT NEED ANYMORE PUBLIC! animals dont do anything wrong to deserve that. all they want is a loving owner and a happy life, not to be killed so any old bod can wear THEIR fur! People with cold hearts made from stone actually wear the coats and kill them and the people who do that are so horrible I want to kill them! they should be killed! animals are beautiful as animals, not clothes! God made them gorgeous and unique as ANIMALS NOT CLOTHING!
  people these days who are cruel to animals should be locked up and never ever let out again and should be left to die. how on earth could they do something like that. they really make me feel sick, with such dispicible behaviour.
  animal skins should DEFINITELY be BANNED AND ILLEGAL so the future generation of animals wont be put through hell and cruelty like the poor animals who already have. I LUV ANIMALS SOOOOO MUCH AND I WOULD DO ABSOLOUTELY ANYTHING TO HELP THEM IN ANY POSSIBLE WAY. Animals cant talk, they're vunreble little darlings and thats why us animal lovers NEED to help them. RSPCA ur doin a brill job thx so much. xx animals i luv yooh xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

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• yassiec July 25, 2009 at 8:11 p.m.

  Skinning animals for their fur is dispicable, especially when they are skinned alive !! those animals deserve to live and dont deserve to be skinned for people just so that they can wear a fur coat! Disgusting behaviour!!!!

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• krymzon July 21, 2009 at 11:14 a.m.

  i read that some animals are stripped of there skin while still alive. only cold hearted people could do that.

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• pegasus July 11, 2009 at 12:14 p.m.

  I agree 150% that animals should not be killed for fur, even less skinned alive. The practice is abhorrent. However, the comments about the Chinese disturb me. There are approximately 1.3 bn Chinese people living in China, and they are not all the same. I have met and known several Chinese in my life and they are all lovely, caring, interesting people. The lack of animal welfare laws in China bothers me just as it bothers everyone else here, but I plan to go to China as soon as I get a chance, because it's a country which has always fascinated me beyond description.

  The RSPCA are training people in China so they are able to better care for animals in a way which we would all find acceptable. The fact they are willing to learn says more than some people give them credit for.

  As for avoiding products made in China, good luck. More commodities come from China than anywhere else. I sympathise with the sentiment, but it's almost impossible to avoid Chinese-made products. Around 70% of all the world's lighters come from China, for example.

  It is grossly unfair to blame all Chinese for others' treatment of animals, just as it would be unfair to blame all Americans for an unjust war. The few tarnish the names of the many. Again.

  Someone said they hated Chinese culture - I take it this was meant generally. I suggest this person reads a few books about Chinese history. It will soon become clear that China has an infinitely fascinating culture and it's not all about killing animals.

  Having said all this, the sooner more animal welfare laws come into force, the better. And that means everywhere.

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• xdiamond_90x June 5, 2009 at 11:35 a.m.

  All I can think is "Why the hell would you want to wear a dead animal?" I think its disgusting that we have allowed dead animals to become a fashion accessory. We should be progressing not going backwards, we have other materials available now & I think a ban is needed on real fur.

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• tinikutinz June 5, 2009 at 2:19 a.m.

  No affence but do you ever wonder how you would feel to be an animal that dies just because some idiot wants to wear you?!? I don't eat meat because every chicken sandwich or beef pie is murdering a poor, helpless creature!

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• tattooedgirlie June 1, 2009 at 12:59 p.m.

  I was so shocked the other day that I almost fell down on the railway at Clapham Junction. There was a posh woman in her 50: ies walking, her live animal a Pomeranian dog very well groomed. The other animal was a dead animal, collar made by fox I think. The both animals had actually matching colors, so well done.
  I had to take a deep breath, because I felt the urge to vomit on her. I approached the woman and said to her. What a beautiful dog:-, she said happily "Oh thank you, her name is Chantal", what is the name of your other animal? She said "Excuse me", “The lovely skinned alive, tortured to death foxy? What's the fox’s name? I replied happily. She started to walk...I cached up and said to her, How would you feel if it was your Chantal who was skinned alive, tortured to death just because an ignorant person like your self wanted to wear her. Beautiful animal, ugly woman...

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• cafeaulait May 28, 2009 at 2:31 p.m.

  hi sasha1991

  i know veganchick has attacked the chinese, but this is a knee jerk reaction. did you see the notorious video of the animal still fully alive with no skin??? well it made me numb for about 3 days after and really upset, this was what evil was for me, undescribable pain and it made me want to murder the guy who was doing this.

  so it is natural that in a country which has NO anti animal cruelty law you would grow to hate the people in it. veganchick knows that everyone is not like that she is clearly in shock.

  however there are a large amount of chinese who love animals as well who are powerless against their regime. china seems to be the worst example in the world. other countries do abuse animals and pretend not to, so they are hypocritical as well. i for one try to boycott chinese products if i have a choice and would not go to china unless i was helping an animal or human rights organisation, i would not want to give my money to china for anything.

  back to the question , no there is no such thing as ethical fur as killing will never be ethical except in times of self defense, fur could never be justified as self defense.

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• Angel123 May 10, 2009 at 11:12 a.m.

  I don't think it's fair that an animal has to die just so somebody can show off about their real moleskin boots or fox skin shrug or something!

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• bluelollypop989997 May 3, 2009 at 10:25 a.m.

  im mean i suppose fur was ok in like the ice age or whatever but really now we can make clothes out of alternative materials that dont cause animals pain. If the animal does die of old age naturally then i think its ok but it doesnt say on labels of clothes this animal died naturally does it ????!!!

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• Jess_loves_animals April 22, 2009 at 6:30 p.m.

  I think it is cruel that people kill animals just so they can wear their fur. well anyone who does like wearing fur, next time you get out you fur coat just think to yourself, because i wanted this fur coat a poor animal had to die. Just get fake fur!

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• love April 22, 2009 at 4 p.m.

  i think wear fake fur, or wait till the animal dies natrually and then you can have its fur because then it doesn't go to waist because animal fur is a valuable thing.

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• Sue April 21, 2009 at 11:43 a.m.

  The fur and meat trade in China has long been a major cause of disquiet to me, and is a subject which has kept me awake more nights than I care to remember. As with everything, you have to take a balanced approach. There is no point in demonizing all Chinese people because there are a lot of genuine animal lovers in China. It is just that the Chinese Government do not encourage pet ownership and make it very difficult by imposing impossibly high licence fees for owning a dog which people on low incomes struggle to afford. If someone is caught without a licence the dog is inhumanely slaughtered by government thugs, often in front of the family. Then, because rabies is widespread there, the government introduce culls from time to time. They first give the dog owners poison to poison their own pet, which is a horrible thing for the dog and the owner, but if the owner chooses not to kill his/her own pet, government thugs come round with baseball bat type weapons and will beat the dog to death for them, and usually in front of them. This is unacceptable treatment of both the animals and their owners, and this is quite apart from what goes on in the meat markets at hellholes like Guangzhou. China is one of the fastest growing economies in the world, which strives for the respect of the Western World. Mags53, I too did not watch the Beijing Olympics because I did not agree that they deserved to hold the event there, and I boycott as far as possible anything from China, particularly fur, which I never wear, fake or real. I too like Chinese cuisine, but the owners of my local Chinese takeaway are Malaysian. If they were Chinese, I would not trust them not to feed me cat!! Then there are the zoos, where live goats and other animals are sold to members of the public to be thrown alive down a ravine to waiting lions and tigers. Chinese families watch the gory spectacle from above and seem to classify this horror as entertainment. Amazingly there are NO animal welfare laws in China! There are animal welfare groups trying hard to make things better for animals, but the government isn't listening.

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• ArcheyTheGreat April 20, 2009 at 8:27 p.m.

  I think that it should be illegal to skin any animal just for their fur. Why whould you by a warm fur coat instead of a cotton jumper which could be just as warm and fashionable.

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• Mags53 April 20, 2009 at 12:18 a.m.

  VeganxChick - agree with you totally about China. I know that it was probably pointless but I didn't watch any of the olympics from Beijing as that would have meant that I was ok about them being given the honour in the first place. I try to never buy anything made in China. I am completely opposed to Chinese medicines because so many cause great suffering to animals (bears having their bile ducts drained, tigers being killed for their claws, etc., etc.). Unfortunately, I am rather partial to chinese cuisine (should please you as I particulalry like a vegetable stir-fry). The biggest issue that I have is the way in which they keep the animals that they are going to eat, then the way in which they kill them - you say about how they kill cats!! I know what is done and whenever I think about it I just feel like crying with anger and horror - it makes me ashamed to be human.

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• VeganxChick April 18, 2009 at 4:07 p.m.

  'Personally I don't see the need for China'

  I feel exactly the same way. I love all animals but especially cats. It upsets me deeply the way they are treated by the Chinese. The poor moggies are put in small cages and are killed. They get skinned alive or are tossed into boiling water to be cooked whilst still being aware of what is happening. I do not care for the culture of China - as far as I am concerned these people are nothing but evil. And with the big cats, namely tigers these beautiful creatures are forced to live in a tiny enclosure. During the day they are 'entertainment', if being starved and dehydrated can be called that! The tigers slowly die and the Chinese kill them to make medicines out of their bones. There is just so much abuse the evil Chinese put upon many billions of animals. And I am well aware that there are many people in this country who mistreat animals and it is very wrong. But what the Chinese do is far worce.

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• Sasha1991 April 17, 2009 at 9:37 p.m.

  To VeganxChick.
  Hopefully you read this message before the other comments. I hope you can ignore my pointless statements about insults making you look foolish.
  I got to thinking and this arguement we are currently having is mostly pointless.
  Clearly you care deeply about animals and I understand where your position on animal welfar is coming from. We just have very different, almost contradicting opinions.
  But all the same, I care just as deeply about animals as you.
  I do not wish to continue the arguement because I know that, deffinately, neither of us is going to change our position and we will continue to pointlessly banter back and forth.
  I hope you are also willing to put my foolish behaviour behind and accept my apology. I did not mean for my comments to seem as if I was attacking you.
  I feel our back-and-forths have created unneccesary tension and anger when I come to comment on this site, I'm not sure about you but it seems the same [just assuming though].
  I'd just like to drop this.
  Hopefully you'll accept.
  Thanks =]

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• Hannah67 April 16, 2009 at 6:01 p.m.

  Personally I don't see the need for China, for example, to need fur, but it is one of those things where the money is important to them. I do see the need for people like eskimos to wear fur though, even though the way that the animal is killed would still be classed as cruel.
  Refering back to the Chinese, I do think it is unfair to critise the whole nation. I believe there is some sort of negotiating possibly going on there regarding a animal welfare. There are 1.3 billion residents of China and I'm sure a lot of them care. But I suppose they do have a different culture, and are in general less of an "animal loving nation" than the British.
  To Veganchick - Obviously you care deeply about animals and are very careful about what you eat etc, but do you think about all the items you own, the vehicles you travel in and all of the vegan foods you eat? I think it is safe to say that all of these things comtribute to animal welfare in a way, such as deforestation for our paper, global warming (if you believe in that sort of thing (and I know, a lot of methane is produced by beef farming too)). I think if people truly want to help animals, then that person/people would live in the woods with their tents, and living off the land and what grows naturally there.

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• Sasha1991 April 16, 2009 at 12:52 a.m.

  I do not care that you hate the Chinese VeganxChick but there is no sense in attacking the nation non the less. By you saying whatever it is you want to say about the Chinese does not improve anything nor does it achieve anything. This has nothing to do with any Samaritans.
  I understand the site is used to talk about animals and the harm they deal with caused by humans on a daily basis, but when someone's ideas contradict yours you look foolish by insulting.
  I have simply questioned you in the same manner you question others.
  And you also have the choice to read my comments, cuz there deffinately isn't anyone holding the gun to your head.

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• Maddiexx April 15, 2009 at 3:16 p.m.

  This is the 21st century why do this?? We don't need it!! I love fashion but no way would I wear real fur!! ewww!! Not even if it was Gucci, Dolce and Gabbana or Chanel!! Wear fake fur its cheaper!! Its often produced cruelly this sickens me!! I think fur looks horrible anyway!!

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• VeganxChick April 14, 2009 at 10:59 p.m.

  R.E Sasha1991

  'You are one-sided and stubborn and refuse to see the validity in any other person's comment'

  My comment was aimed at you, nobody else.

  Please! stop telling me what I can and cannot say with regard to the Chinese. I have my opinions about them for a reason and I do not need the likes of you moaning about it. No one is forcing you to read what I write.

  This is not a site for the Samaritans or other nonsense like that! This is purely for animals to talk about the appaling way many millions get treated by 'human beings' and I use the term lightly.

  'that naturally our bodies as humans require certain nutrients which are present in meat and very good for health in moderate amounts'

  To the person who wrote that you do not need to eat parts of an animal to have a healthy diet. Animals suffer greatly in the meat and dairy industry. I cannot understand how certain individuals say they love animals in one breathe but in the next are eating them. Apart from the obvious of not contributing to animal suffering, a vegan lifestyle is also better for the environment.

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• Mags53 April 14, 2009 at 9:33 p.m.

  Hannah67 and Lyonesse - we can manage without meat, but for most people the need to balance a vegan diet to the degree that eating meat gives you would be too much. I eat meat, I am not ashamed that I eat meat, I wish that all animals were wild and that we had to hunt them on an individual basis to feed ourselves. I would say that unless someone was willing to kill and prepare their own meat then they should be vegan, if you aren't up to doing the job of getting your own meat then it's hypocracy to eat it BUT we cannot do that, you can't have people going around killing their own animals, they wouldn't be up to the job and the animal would suffer. I don't know what the answer is but I try my best to buy ethically raised and slaughtered animals for my meat - and I never forget that they are dead animals not just meat.

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• Hannah67 April 12, 2009 at 9:17 p.m.

  To lyonesse - We are omnivores, therefor can either live off a diet of just meat or just vegetables (or both). All nutrients/vitamins/minerals found in meat can be found from other food sources, which is why vegetarians or vegans can and do have some of the healthiest diets. I am not saying that people shouldn't eat meat, as it is something that is obviously ones choice. Though all meat should be killed properly and humanely.
  I also disagree with the word "ethical" as I feel that no killing for meat/fur can be called ethical. To be honest if I was an animal I wouldn't care less if, after I was killed, all my body parts were used or not, I find it rather patronising on the animals behalf to say "we'll give you a good life, then we'll kill you, and to be even kinder we'll make sure we use all your parts so that none of your body is wasted". I do feel quite strongly about this. But, I do realise that the solution would not be to bannish the consumption of meat as this would lead to other environmental and economic complications.

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• lyonesse April 11, 2009 at 2:34 a.m.

  I believe that naturally our bodies as humans require certain nutrients which are present in meat and very good for health in moderate amounts. As long as an animal is killed humainly and has a good standard of living and food which promotes health and its nutrtional needs then eating meat is okay. It i8s difficult to say the wearing fur argument is all one way because if we were not in such a coruptable time you could simply cull an animal eat its meat and make use of all parts of the carcus such as the fur how ever in this day and age if wearing of fur is acceptable at any level people would ignore the good use of a culled animal and make use of every part of the precious carcus and turn it into a commercial thing and kill just for fur, which is wasteful of an animal live which again we are all part of the animal kingdom. I have alot of vegetarian and vegan friends and I respect their thoughts but personally I eat meat for nutritional value and feel that making full use of the animal and not wasting parts of the animal is key to make culling for consumption a worthwhile activity. I also really hope that free range meat prices can come down dramatically to increase the wellfare of animals that are selected for consumption.

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• Sasha1991 April 9, 2009 at 12:54 a.m.

  Naturegirl you shouldn't feel ashamed of yourself.
  Eatting meat is a natural part of human existance and has been since the beginning of the race.
  and you have nothing to prove to people that say eatting animals is completely wrong.

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• Naturegirl April 8, 2009 at 7:20 p.m.

  I agree with amy1707 because everyones going around saying "oh you eat meat you are disgusting,you cruel to animals".Then starting to make people feel bad because they love animals.I know that they are animals and everything,but still as amy said a lion woudent go "oh I can't eat the zebra because it will not like it".Then the lion will starve and die.Its just nature "an animal eats another animal".Its just the circle of life and wrong people feel bad so stop it,because I love animals but like to eat meat so it makes me feel ashamed of myself.And its not fair.

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• Sasha1991 April 7, 2009 at 8:46 p.m.

  Twichyme, I think you make excellent points throughout your entire comment.
  I also agree with you in the fact that people who wear animal skins are ugly and for some reason feel that placing an animals skin over their bodies will make them more beautiful.. its distasteful.
  Using animal skins is horrible and disgusting.

  And to the statement at the top, there is NO possible way to buy ethical fur. How can it EVER be ethical... it just doesn't seem possible nor does it make sense..

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• Sasha1991 April 7, 2009 at 1:15 a.m.

  VeganChick
  I am not a child and do not assume my age by a number in my name.
  And I am HIGHLY insulted by the fact that you say I do not care for animals
  I just do not see the need to single out an entire race. You don't like the idea of the chinese torturing animals but its ok for these creatures to be used in the UK for circuses. Perhaps all the UK people are horrible people then? I didn't think so. But thats exactly what you are doing. Being completely judgemental.
  I know you disagree with circuses, which is someone from the UK disagreeing with something in their country. So now apply that to the Chinese, perhaps not everyone enjoys the fact that these animals are being treated poorly.
  You have to look at the argument from both sides and not be so one-sided. You categorize and judge but don't look at the points of view of the poor people and the people in the places of desperation, the UK is in a far better economical standing than the Chinese.
  White tigers in the US are being placed in hotels so people can look at them and be satisifed with the money they paid.
  India has some areas where they force bears to dance by putting hooks and strings threw their noses to make money. But you don't single them out.
  I think you honestly have a personal vendetta for the Chinese and so I'm letting you know that you cannot openly attack an entire nation.
  Sure have your opinions, but saying all the Chinese are horrible people will get you no where.
  And as for the comment of me being tiresome, you are also.
  You are one-sided and stubborn and refuse to see the validity in any other person's comment unless it directly relates to your own ideology.

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• whippet April 6, 2009 at 9:31 p.m.

  I have never met you Mags53, but judging by your comments about animal skins...you must feel petty inadequate about yourself. If you need to dress yourself up with a dead animal to gain looks, you must be ugly.
  I bet you look better than a dead, road kill badger eh!
  Here's looking at ya!
  Show me a good woman please!
  Whippet.

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• parker March 31, 2009 at 3:17 p.m.

  ANIMALS WERE GIVEN FUR FOR A REASON TO KEEP THEM GOD DAM WARM, WE INVENTED MAN MADE MATERIALS TO KEEP US WARM SO WE DON'T NEED FUR. HOW WOULD A HUMAN LIKE IT IF THEY WERE TO BE SKINNED THEN SOMEONE WEAR IT IT WOULD BE DISGUSTING. IF PEOPLE CAN'T BE SKINNED ALIVE OR DEAD THEN IT SHOULD BE THE SAME FOR ANIMALS. THEY HAVE THEIR FUR FOR A REASON SO LEAVE IT THE WAY IT IS WHICH IS ON THEIR BODY.

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• x_Gemma_x March 28, 2009 at 11:05 p.m.

  the only way u could buy 'ethical' fur, is if it was a by-product and the animals were kept and killed humanely. whilst still alive, they should be kept in a natural habitat, with everything they would have in the wild. they should be killed properly with fast and effective equipment in a humane way, not slammed on the floor with their heads stood on!! :@ the fur should be a by-product of the animal, the whole of the animal should be used and fur should not be the priority reason the animals are killed (it should be for meat etc). The fur should be the last thing people are killing the animals for. it should be a situation like leather from cows...

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• twitchyme March 28, 2009 at 2:31 p.m.

  l like most think wearing animal fur-skin is obnoxious, and those that wear it, considering the level of awareness are to me ugly, be they models, top celebs, thankfully there are celebs like ricky gervais who will stand up in public and oppose it.
  l dont tend to look at the video`s of animal suffering, but have seen tv progs and pics, that is more than enough, l am too aware, but some are not, so the video`s are important so that people can see, and some will care enough to change, some are too selfish, self obcessed and vain to. l dont think we can condemn the whole race of a country, all countries commit some forms of cruelty to animals, but some more than others, in the uk we still hunt, and commit cruelty to domestic pets, and it seems the welsh are going ahead with mass badger culling, so grateful the english aren`t.
  Still there are countries that allow practises that ours doesnt re animal welfare, many of them, th ehigh profile ones being the chinese, who are supplying all things in mass, including fur products, with animals kept in appalling conditions and suffering terribly, wild animals, domestic pets, even endangered animals, as is also the case with their meds,
  but the people also suffer at the hands of their goverment, forced abortions, kidnapping of thier children, as well as thier pets, so dont think we can just single out all chinese people, and everyone knows that some of the sth east asian countries eat dogs and cats,
  but we now have the canadians clubbing thousands of baby seals, the japanese, russian,norwegians, are still hunting and killing the magnificent whales and dolphins.
  Nearer to home and our favourite holiday dest, spain treat bulls with horrendous cruelty, be ith the known bull fights, tormented and weakened before entering the ring, then jabbed with daggers to weaken further, before the supposed brave matador sticks his sword in it. There are also spanish villages that set afire the bulls horns and chase the terrified animal through the streets, even worse one custom is for the bull to be tied up whilst all in the village throw darts at it, dozens of them, but much of the affore mentioned would not be allowed by law in the uk or eec countries, be it spain is one of them???
  Not all people from these countries take part or support these cutoms, and many have little knowledge ar awareness of whats happening, many chinese wont have, poor communications through poverty, whilst all canadians will have knowledge a high tech rich country, so are they any better than the chinese, and they would not do it if western countries did not buy it, including some of our most influential celebs. Totally Vile.

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• viva_la_bamj March 27, 2009 at 10:37 p.m.

  ID RATHER GO NAKED THAN WEAR FUR!

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• actionalizzie March 27, 2009 at 5:42 p.m.

  how horrible do people want to get with animals these days!

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• VeganxChick March 21, 2009 at 10:57 p.m.

  R.E Sasha1991

  The way the Chinese treat animals is disgusting! You really are tiresome. I do not feel the way I do about the Chinese based on a single PETA video.

  Go on google and type in tigers, it will show you the appaling treatment these beautiful cats suffer at the hands of the Chinese! There is so much more but you can look for it yourself.

  Based on your other comments you clearly dislike animals or at the very least have little respect for them. Thats the problem with children these days - have no respect for anyone or anything!

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• VeganxChick March 18, 2009 at 11:41 p.m.

  borisnigel12 I agree that pets should have nice confortable bedding. However it is not acceptable that the bedding be made of another animals skin! But then I soppose you are one of those individuals who sees nothing wrong in wearing a fur coat?

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• ZDrache March 13, 2009 at 6:47 p.m.

  'But if an animal has lived happily and is killed humanely, what's the issue?'

  - So say for example a member of your family has lived a 'happy' life, would you think it ok for them to be killed humanely?-

  *****

  Why, yes. Yes, I would hypothetically prefer it to them dying from some horrid disease.
  You have to remember that the natural world features many strange and cruel deaths involving broken bones, poisions that attack the nerves, being dropped from high heights...humans have the technology and the knowledge to make death not such a distressing option anymore.

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• mini_clem24 March 9, 2009 at 4:15 p.m.

  to wear the skin of an animal in cruel, inhumain and disgusting, it is exactly like some one going out tomorrow and wearing the skin of a human as their jacket, its ethically wrong, i disagree with wearing animal fur, i disagree with killing them in the first place, animals have a right, as much as we do to, they live on the same planet as we do. we do not rule over them yet because we can think and produce things we think we rule everything, we are slowly killing the earth and all the living organisms with it. is that fair?.... that we are the ones to take everything away from them and ourselves?...why take the fur of other animals just because they look good as a coat or are warm.....there is a thing called artifical fur...artifical is what we have been replacing everything else so why not replace real fur with artifical fur!!!

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• Animalsaver February 28, 2009 at 4:52 p.m.

  It really has to stop. Wearing an animal for fashion. Ewww, I think wearing fur looks cheap and tacky. How could anyone see a white fox in a cage shaking with fear about to be KILLED then SKINED say it humane or absouloutly fine??? They should bring back the advert with the model carrying fur and blood all over the catwalk back. Peple need to understand what actually happens in the fur trade!

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• amy1707 February 27, 2009 at 4:11 p.m.

  VeganChix- how can you say that an animal is the same as a human? Humans are carnivorous, that is how we evolved. If everyone stopped eating meat, all the farm animals would have no purpose and would all be culled,for no reason.
  In the wild you don't think that the lion thinks 'o dear i better not eat that antelope, it may not like it' It is just the way it is. If you concentrated more on the rights of humans then maybe you would find that this is where humankind commits its worst attrociaties. Put it into context!
  I strongly believe in free range famring and animal welfare and i think it is rediculous to say that just because someone may not be vegan that they don't care about animals.
  Killing animals for fur, i believe is worng unless it is eaten. Then, as long as it is doen humanely, i do not have a problem with it as it was killed for a purpose. It is just how nature works! why should we be any exception?!?!

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• Sasha1991 February 25, 2009 at 4:13 a.m.

  Besides, that comment wasnt't meant out to make the person videoing look bad, it was to simply state that you can't attack a nation because the video shows only that kind of people, because, I feel, by standing there video-taping you are not helping the situation at all. And it is every nation in the world that contributes to the fur trade.

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• Sasha1991 February 25, 2009 at 4:07 a.m.

  Not necessarily, because people already know what goes on with the fur trade yet people still buy fur.
  By showing that video they have done nothing because only the people that actually care about the well-being of the animals are the ones that look-up PETA stuff and watch those kinds of videos. So the 'us' you speak of is the people that already care and disagree with it.
  Which means they don't change the minds of anyone, only validate the fact that its wrong, to the people that already say its wrong, and not changing the minds of anyone really.

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• amy1586 February 24, 2009 at 6:20 p.m.

  Sasha 1991 the person doing the video is blatently filming it to show the world the horrors that go on - so in a way they weren't just 'standing there watching' they have shown us the truth and made people more aware meaning they are less likely to buy fur!

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• Sasha1991 February 24, 2009 at 1:29 a.m.

  To VeganxChick,
  Singling out an entire race for a video that PETA has put up doesn't make sense.
  There are only a few people in the video that did those thing. Sure, its absolutely dreadful, but what was the one with the video camera doing?
  Standing there watching.
  Chances are the spectators are not all chinese.
  Watching is just as horrible as actually participating in the skinning. People who say they're against it, yet stand there and do not attempt to do anything other than to proove someone is a more horrible person than they are.
  You can't say all Chinese people, or whichever the race seen comitting acts of cruelty is sickening, it is only the people that lack the heart to see the harm they cause to living creatures that are the sickening ones.
  And besides, these things aren't just happening in China, its all over the world. Therefore if you are going to say one race is sickening, you must say every single race is.
  I completely agree with you on the fact that wearing a mink coat or raccoon fur is completely pointless and quite disgusting in all honesty,
  but i also agree with Mags53 in the sense that wearing wool and having products, for example pillows, made of feathers are fine, aslong as they are collected properly, removing the wool from a pregnant sheep while in the middle of winter is wrong, but there is methods of shearing sheep that make the process a 30 second one.
  It is exactly like a child getting their hair cut, sure getting them to the barber is a bit strenuous but when its all over there is no harm done to the child and they return to their perfectly content state of mind.

  I'm completely against the mistreating of animals in all aspects, but we cannot put the blame on everyone who has ever sheared a sheep, only those that do it in a way that causes harm or by trying to make an entire race/country look like the bad guys when its all over the world and not the whole country that partakes.

  Thanks.

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• amy1586 February 22, 2009 at 7:30 p.m.

  borisnigel12 your cats have their own fur to keep them warm and 'snug'!!!! How would you feel if they were skinned alive and used for another person/animal's comfort?!!

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• animallover57 February 20, 2009 at 9:43 p.m.

  I'm shocked and disgusted at the people who can wear fur in public
  and they should be horrified at themselves - who would want to walk around wearing a fur coat that could have been a dog or cat?
  It's inhumane and disgusting - humans can be so cruel....

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• borisnigel12 February 18, 2009 at 1:10 p.m.

  REAL FUR!!
  If I go to a Boot Sale etc I will buy an item of this as my BEGAL Boy Cats and my Adopted feral girl cat love it for their bedding---It keeps them all warm and snug in their beds at night!
  There is some use for skins- In my eyes it keeps my cats warm!!
  Horrid as it my be -- My animals have benefit of their own kind. And they are happy and 'warm'
  We think its shocking [as it is to skin ,kill animals etc] but when you see how warm and 'snugged' your pet is on the 'item'[which has probably been dead for years anyway] -it does bring a smile to your face as our pets do not know any differance. That is the only time I would buy Fur-- xx

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• VeganxChick February 14, 2009 at 10:55 p.m.

  'But if an animal has lived happily and is killed humanely, what's the issue?'

  So say for example a member of your family has lived a 'happy' life, would you think it ok for them to be killed humanely?

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• Agnetha February 14, 2009 at 10:14 p.m.

  I think we should cut out animal carments and go for cotton.

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• ZDrache February 12, 2009 at 7:16 p.m.

  IMO, There's something inherently tacky about pleather and fake fur due to the fact they're made to look like something that they're not. The bland and dodgy-looking tofu of fashion, you could say. (I bet Kobi leather is divine; probably all soft from thoes daily massages!)

  Of course it's sick to have animals kept in small cages, dashed on the ground and skinned alive a-la PETA shock video, and it's also wrong to kill endangered species; But if an animal has lived happily and is killed humanely, what's the issue? Leather is a by-product anyway, and since I don't eat beef (don't like the taste) that's not an issue to me. I don't wear fur because it's not humanely aquired, but if it was I would in a heartbeat.

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• Naturegirl February 7, 2009 at 1:57 p.m.

  I HATE it when people wear real fur for no good reason. It is unfair for animals because they get killed for nothing and probably some speices will get extincted just for fashion?! so while miss or mr Fashion are posing and braging about THEIR warm FUR COAT an animal is getting KILLED. ITS NOT FAIR AND IT'S SICKENING!!!

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• VeganxChick January 29, 2009 at 10:43 p.m.

  R.E Mags53

  You are completly missing the point. I was talking from the vegan point of view. Not the point of view of someone who does not give a damn about animals.

  And you think there is no suffering for wool, thats where you are wrong. Never heard of shearing? It is stressful and often carried out with little regard for the sheeps welfare.
  Shearing of pregnant ewes in the winter is sometimes done to enable more of them to be crowded into housing and may leave them suffering from cold. The fact that you take their coats off means they have to eat more to keep warm.

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• Mags53 January 29, 2009 at 9:09 p.m.

  Veganchick - do you really believe that wearing something made from cashmere (or wool) is the same as wearing fur? Do you really believe that making use of something that is moulted by the animal every year without any harm to it (like having your hair cut) is the same as killing it to skin it? The argument is lost when the acceptable is mixed with the unacceptable. I once spoke to a vegetarian who wore leather, his argument was that more animals die each year from the pollution caused by the making of man-made fibres and materials (for shoes, etc.) than are killed to make shoes out of leather.

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• VeganxChick January 26, 2009 at 1:50 p.m.

  The singer Jennifer Lopez is a big 'fan' of wearing fur! And this vile human being wonders why people from animal rights groups send her threatening letters etc. Last year this woman confronted her and 'poor' Lopez called the police. Animals do not have a voice so it is up to people to speak up for them.

  If you know anyone who has anything made from fur, leather, feathers, cashmere, silk etc - talk to them about it. I know its hard to believe, but there are people out there who buy certain items without thinking where they have come from. But there are others who are are plain ignorant, who would wear fur regardless of what you say to them.

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• Jimmy-Jen January 24, 2009 at 8 p.m.

  I hate anybody that wears animals skin! Its so cruel and mean! I could't bear it if i saw anybody wearing an animal! And some people even use them as rugs!!!!!! ITS COMPLETLY CRUEL!

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• Partypopper January 22, 2009 at 7:19 p.m.

  Why what have the animals done to us.Dont kill it skin it but then wearing it may look good but how would you like it if someone wore you sick!!!!

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• Ellz January 22, 2009 at 4:15 p.m.

  I think it is absoloutely horrible that people acctually skin animals, kill them and then whats worse than that is wearing their fur! Animals have as much right as a human to live so i dont see the joy of wearing a fur coat. I love animals and i hate seeing them being treated cruely. xx

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• VeganxChick January 20, 2009 at 10:36 p.m.

  It is disgusting that some individuals think they need to wear a mink coat or a raccoon coat etc. There is nothing clever in parading around in a 'coat' which many animals have been skinned - often the poor animals are not even dead. From an article I saw ages ago, the sickening Chinese electricute the animal and then start skinning it. The animal often comes around whilst its coat is being taken. The poor little creature along with its other furry friends are tossed aside. They can take up to half an hour to die!

  I also want to point out that some 'Faux Fur' is made from dog fur, but I stress that it is only 1%. Even though it is a very small amount, you should still double check what you are buying.

  Have a look at PETA. They have alot of information about the fur trade and the appalling conditions that many animals are treated.

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• lulu_n_misu January 20, 2009 at 6:08 p.m.

  I totally agree with Karma!!!! It doesn't help the situation, even if the whole animal is used. In the end, the animal is still dead!!

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• Karma January 13, 2009 at 2:52 p.m.

  I do not understand the logic behind the idea that it's okay to wear fur if the rest of the animal is eaten and there is no waste.

  You know, I wouldn't like to be killed even if there was a contract to say that I would be eaten, my teeth would be made into jewellery, my hair sold for hair extensions, and that every bit of me would be used. That wouldn't make me feel any better about being killed - so how come some of the posts here think its okay for animals?

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• Catlover12132 January 11, 2009 at 11:03 a.m.

  petcrazybubblegirl is so right. I mean WHAT IS WRONG WITH FAKE FUR?!!!

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• petcrazybubblegirl January 10, 2009 at 6:57 p.m.

  I think it is down right cruel to kill animals for their fur. I mean if you were a hunter and saw a tree with nice leaves you wouldnt go and chop it down killing it would you. so why do people go and kill poor animals for their fur. It really makes me angry when these big name fashion designers wont use fake fur in their designs. Aparantly it seems like it just isnt good enough for them. What isnt good and unfair is that people are still running around killing animals for their fur and sending it all around the world. FAKE FUR IS HARMLESS TO ANIMALS. WHAT IS THE PROBLEM WITH THAT?

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• Kittygirl77 January 10, 2009 at 5:39 p.m.

  I think that real fur coats and boots should be banned. Real Ugg boots with sheep fur insside I hate and real fur coats as well. Everytime I see someone wearing real fur I think about how cruel it is to kill animals for their fur.

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• HelpingAnimalsGirl January 10, 2009 at 4:24 p.m.

  I hate the idea of real fur being worn, everytime I see someone wearing a fur coat I thing about about the poor animal that could have lived for years but it didn't, and that person just bought that coat because it looked cool.

  WHATS WRONG WITH A NON FUR COAT.

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• Sazzii January 8, 2009 at 9:30 p.m.

  I hate people who wear fur this is cruelty and its just as bad as dog fighting y do u need fur to look glamourous for pitty sake faux fur looks real enough.

  Stop the FUR TRADE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11

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• animallover57 January 2, 2009 at 12:18 p.m.

  The models and wags who humiliate themselves by wearing fur, and although they look glamorous, shouldn't feel it inside. How they can wear the coat without feeling guilty, I wonder .....

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• diddldream January 1, 2009 at 6:31 p.m.

  Ive never ever worn fur or had and thing made of animal fur and never want to its disquestingly gross and mean to animals im sure i wouldnt like to be skinned of my skin and be left as discusting bits. And i love animals so i would never ever wanna see them hurt, i love all animals all different kinds. Its not the looks or the size or the furryness, well its not there fault what they look like and they have the right to keep there fur, im saying it for the animals!!!

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• lolkelseylol December 31, 2008 at 12:53 p.m.

  Personally i have no problem with wearing fur. (wait let me say my point)
  Origionally before civilisation when tribes were the main group of people, the hunts men would go out to the wild and kill an animal then bring it home. Eat it's meat, Keep its skin ... etc (use every part of it;s body) and most importantly would only kill one animal in order to keep the balance of nature. This type of killing i agree with. However nowadays, animals are breed and butchered just for their skin, the other body parts are just thrown away.
  CRUEL.
  IT MAKES ME FURIOUS.

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• Booshishea December 28, 2008 at 10:23 a.m.

  I AM SO DISGUSTED AT PEOPLE THAT THINK IT'S OK TO WALK AROUND WEARING DEAD BEARS!!!! IT'S TOTALLY INAPPROPRIATE!!! I can understand why people eat meat, but fur is one step too far over the line. ANIMALS HAVE FEELINGS! THEY FEEL PAIN! Think about it- how would some stuck up, snobbish celebrity feel if a giant bear came up to her with a scalpel and skinned her so she was just a pile of blood and guts?!?
  She would scream, but nobody would hear- nobody would CARE! Nobody cares when animals cry out- so we must cry out for them! STOP FUR!!!

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• georginga December 26, 2008 at 5:18 a.m.

  I have always been against fur, and am utterly shocked that whoever it is that seems to think they can make money out of the merciless torture of such beautiful creatures in the name of fashion has got such a rousing reception from the models and wags that wear their products!
  I used to be vegetarian but now soley eat 'happy' animal produce, free range meat.. eggs - including products made with free range ingredients, trust me it works wonders when you are walking down the cake aisle of some of the cheaper supermarkets ;) .. a conscience on wot you eat can work wonders on a diet hehe! As for leather shoes, I was always under the impression that they were a by product of the meat trade? where as fur is a sole product in this particular farming practice.
  On the stance of fake fur, i tend not to go for that either... it just doesnt rock my boat, particularly when you hear tales of some fake furs being contaminated with furs of cats and dogs from china, poor little mites!
  Merry Christmas everyone xxx

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• animallover57 December 23, 2008 at 5:42 p.m.

  Every time I go into a shop which happens to be selling fur coats, I always check whether it's fake or real. My mum calls it a weird and strange habit, but I'm always shocked when it does turn out to be real and I'm so disgusted that I never shall set foot in that shop, and never intend to again. People's brain goes out the window and they don't care where it's from, or what animal it even was and how it's been killed, all they think of is buying the coat, whatever the price.

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• fallen angel55 December 20, 2008 at 2:06 p.m.

  I always make sure i buy from shops that don't use real fur. I don't even really wear fake fur cos it doesn't appeal to me but if you want to wear fur then wear fake, it all looks the same!

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• animal_saver December 16, 2008 at 8:23 a.m.

  i read an article about how people so shamlessly sell and buy real fur. after that every time i saw fur and i could touch it i checked to see if it was real. and if it was and my mum looking at clothes in that department i told her not to buy it.

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• animallover57 December 14, 2008 at 8:04 p.m.

  On a television program, they were talking about fur and when they asked people on the streets, most said they'd wear real fur! I'm horrified and shocked people would only wear fur because it made them look like they were rolling in money, as well as to make people jealous! Those people should be ashamed of themselves, because they sounded like total snobs when they said it. They probably don't even know what horrible treatment the animal has gone though to make that coat and how would they feel if they were the animals about to be killed for their fur? If they saw the story through the animals eyes, I'm sure they'd think before they brought the fur coat.

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• ladygrey December 1, 2008 at 5:12 p.m.

  The fur Trade should be stopped without doubt.
  I bet if all these models, actors and so called artists, had to skin the animals them selves then they would never wear fur.... wouldnt want blood on their hands would they? well if they wear fur then they already have.
  Fur is for animals not humans, thats why we have central heating.

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• samanthaluck December 1, 2008 at 3:40 p.m.

  I saw the most disturbing and heartbreaking footage of animals being skinned alive years ago and subsequently could not bring myself to watch this program. It made me physically sick and will stay with me for life.

  Do not condone or buy fur full stop. People who claim it is OK if it is the by-product of something else cannot be thinking about the consequences of this statement.

  At the moment, if we see fur, we know it has more than likely been obtained in a cruel and unjust manner. After all, what part of killing an animal for it's fur, isn't? If we start allowing fur in some cases, how are the consumers supposed to know what fur has been obtained ethically (if there is such a thing!) and who polices this to see that this is truely the case? How long before these practices become corrupt and the consumer is buying what they think is 'ethical' but isn't? There will always be sick individuals who take advantage and get in on the act just as people rip off designers with fake goods and sell counterfeit items. As long as people are there to buy them, the trade/slaughter goes on. Refuse fur completely.

  Fur is beautiful - on an animal. Is a person so disgusted with their own skin that they need to hide behind the skin of something else? These people are so ugly, deluded and self absorbed. They are an insult to the human race. I cannot and will never accept fur as ethical in any circumstance. Is is inhumane, immoral and completely wrong.

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• animallover57 November 29, 2008 at 6:50 p.m.

  It's terrible that people just kill the animal - that animal has died so you can wear the coat once and never wear it again. Those animals are suffering and I would like to see the owners in the dogs shoes - how painful must it be? Knowing you're going to die but there is nothing you can do about it, no way to fight back so you just lie there as this horrible, sick treatment is happening all around you. I can't even wear fake fur - it reminds me of the real thing, I can't bear that. This is a reminder that fur is cruelly produced luxury and any celebrities who wear it should be ashamed - anybody for that matter.

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• devilsdance November 29, 2008 at 5:26 p.m.

  I AM DEVASTATED!!! I cannot believe what is happening in this sick world nowadays. I have recenlty learnt a lot about humans. I despise them. We are selfish, vain and insensitive. The words "life" and "dignity" have no meaning today. "I am the most important and nothing else matters" that's out attitude. The animals don't harm us without a reason, without any hazard. I am wondering who gave us the right to decide to use animals for furs,for experiments,for tests, for entertainment. They are innocent creatures and should enjoy their wild life. I read a lot about animals issues every day and I cry....and pray for all this suffering to end.
  NO FUR!!!!!!

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• Rabbit crazy November 29, 2008 at 12:34 p.m.

  i think fake fur is silly.
  I also don't like the use of bird feathers on feather things u put round ur neck, i know they are real feathers but why kill a bird for that!
  Fake fur is an incouragement to those who wear fur.
  BAN THEM ALL!

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• katia12 November 29, 2008 at 10:23 a.m.

  clgoh,
  it's not that people just skin them, like people would take our cothes.
  They KILL the animal.

  I think it is a disgrace.
  No one should even think about killing something, such as a tiger, especially when they are close to extinction. It is actually disgusting. It should be stopped, no animal should have to go through the pain that they have to go through.

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• clgoh November 28, 2008 at 12:19 p.m.

  How would you like it if someone strip you off your clothes all in a sudden and leave you there naked?

  This is exactly what humans who take animal fur to make clothings.

  I am fine with faux ones as personaly I feel that animal fur clothes are gorgeous and its an art by God.

  And God (not to be religious take it as Mother Nature) made them to protect animals from weather conditions.

  If you do not want people to strip you naked then dont strip the animals naked either!

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• PlaygirlNix November 28, 2008 at 10:59 a.m.

  I have one thing to say about wearing fur...

  IT SHOULD BE BANNED!!

  Killing animals for meat/food is one thing, but killing animals to look good? That is just wrong, its along the same lines as animal testing. I would rather never wear make-up etc than have it tested on animals. If the product is for humans, test it on humans!

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• Laurah-x November 27, 2008 at 5:26 p.m.

  I adore fashion and i am always keeping up with everying but theres one thing i will not do and tha is wear fur i think its so wrong for a animal to be born just to be killed for someone to have a scarf round their neck i hate it i am such a animal lover and wearing fur just makes feel sick inside

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• Rabbit crazy November 26, 2008 at 7:14 p.m.

  I think its terrible that some people don't have a second thought about killing these lovely animals.
  I mean, what has that animal ever done to you to make you kill it, skin it and where it!
  I also hate the idea of fur farms, how could you keep those animals in stinking conditions and then kill them!
  Its got to stop!

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• 5427 November 25, 2008 at 5:32 p.m.

  Just the thought of some ars*h*l* killing and skinning an animal makes me feel physically sick. It makes me want to skin the person myself and sell his skin off and see how he likes it.

  MILLIONS of animals have died because of HUMANS killing them just to WEAR. It makes me feel ashamed to be the same species as them. Just because we are supposedly "superior" do we have the right to hunt down and kill animals for fashion?

  DISGUSTING.
  Ellie x

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• Tammeazile November 24, 2008 at 4:59 p.m.

  Why buy real fur? You can get perfectly good fake fur. Really I don't see the point in buying real fur, the thought of wearing skin of an animal is just disgusting. Since we are technically animals aswell it would be like killing your next door neighbour and wearing his skin afterwards! Now one of the everyday fur wearers tell me if you'd still want to wear fur after just pictureing that as I expect you all have unwillingly done so. It's not nice is it? Think about tigers fr example, something like 95% of tigers has been wiped out! And some of the reason for that was fur. So there were other reasons aswell like medicine but my point is if the fur industry continues we are going to lose some of the most beautiful animals in the world. and it's not like the demand is going to stop just because the animals are extinct. I am atalking about a span in years here but one ofter the other animals with fur are going to turn to be turned into hats! Just think back to your next door nieghbour, he or she will have family somewhere ans so do these animals! Now that thought is even worse isn't it?

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• Cuzza November 23, 2008 at 9:36 p.m.

  They say beauty is only skin deep and this is true of any person who wears fur, as it is the fur that is beautiful it's a pity they didn't leave it on the beautiful creature. The person inside it is ugly, vain, heartless and evil... not endearing qualities to have...

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• Freedom4animals November 22, 2008 at 4:48 p.m.

  It is HORRIBLE and totally unnecessary, Maybe, it is slightly more acceptable for people up north in the poles to have worn fur two hundred years ago as they didn't know any better, but surely today, we have the resources and understanding to avoid that!

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• miamelia November 22, 2008 at 2:18 p.m.

  some people are disgusting.

  why wear fur? i mean seriously. WHY? okay, it looks awesome. maybe even on you? but don't you feel that it looks the BEST on the animal itself?

  this is what happens, people are jealous and they kill that animal to take their fur off and they wear it themselves. THEY ARE SO THOUGHTLESS.

  animals.
  feel.
  pain.

  animals.
  are.
  ALLOWED.
  to.
  LIVE.
  A.
  HAPPY.
  LIFE.

  animals.. they are really similar to us, you know. yet, we do not skin other people to wear their skin. fur is basically no different. this is so disgusting. fur belongs on the animals themselves. not on people.

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• animallover57 November 20, 2008 at 8:26 p.m.

  I adore animals and the idea of wearing one as a coat makes me sick - only to be worn once and the thrown away is stupid - an animal has died so you could wear the coat and then chuck it away! I see no point in even WEARING the coat - let the animals live!

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• lottiebottie007 November 18, 2008 at 12:32 p.m.

  This was disgusting, I am never going to wear fur, ever. This was horrible, fashion like girogio armani and other couture labels should be ashamed of themselves if they use fur from animals. I bet they don't even realise how it's made, they just put it on their practicallly starving models and throw em down the catwalk, only to be worn ONCE. Can you imagine, being killed for someone's fasion addiction only to be worn ONCE then thrown away just because it is out of fashion????
  This world really sickens me, just to lookk good and to show off, people are willing to kill an animal, which like them, has a life, possibly children, and more importantly, a soul.

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• animallover57 November 14, 2008 at 5:58 p.m.

  Don't get me wrong, I'm into following fashion trends and I'm not the only girl, but KILLING the animal just for the fur is wrong! I'm 100 percent NEVER going to buy or wear the fur from an animal - never ever.

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• animallover57 November 14, 2008 at 5:54 p.m.

  I'm horrified myself when I see people wearing the fur that may have been alive two weeks ago - I'm shocked that people don't care about the animals, I mean if you were the animal going to be skinned, you'd be scared to death, wouldn't you? I don't even like faux fur, it reminds me too much of the real thing.

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• Genie November 13, 2008 at 3:12 p.m.

  I am 100% against animal fur bein used 4 fashion.

  Don't get me wrong i'm in2 fashion just as much as any other girl but there are certain lengths that people go to that i think are wrong and fur is one of them.

  it's wrong and i hope that people soon realise that animals get hunted just 2 b turned in2 a coat or a bag... it shouldn't happen.

  the onli fur that you should see in shops is faux fur because then at least the fur it's copying is stil on the animal not on you.

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• vigilante-designs November 13, 2008 at 1:43 a.m.

  I only have a problem with fir coats if the rest of the animal wasnt used for food. If say a mink was killed n skinned you could still use the meat of the animal and it would be a lot better than jst not using the rest of the animal.

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• nora1 November 11, 2008 at 7:25 p.m.

  i am against real fur coats,it's just so cruel to animals!
  i hope people stop other people against selling real fur coats!

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• Tabetsey November 5, 2008 at 10:30 a.m.

  Fur should remain where it belongs - on the animals. There is no good reason to buy fur - other than vanity which is a pathetic excuse for animals being tortured and skinned alive. I will never ever wear fur, be it "ethically" sourced or not. A beautiful animal still has to lose its life for this.

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• Mags53 November 4, 2008 at 8:14 p.m.

  amy1707 - the difference between a mink farm and a cow/pig/sheep farm is that the cow/pig farm's primary function is to provide food, the skin is a by-product; the sheep farm - well sheep don't even have to be killed to get their coat for our wool, they just get a hair-cut BUT if we use the skin that is a by-product of the food that is the prime function - mink are not eaten they are killed just for their skin, they are a carnivore and we don't usually eat those as I understand that they taste unpleasant. BUT, there is now a big mink problem in this country as protestors released 1,000s of them into the countryside and they have killed most water birds and animals on many, many waters and are a BIG problem - they are still being killed as they need to be eradicated as an unwanted pest before ALL ducks, grebe, water-vole, etc., etc. are killed by them.

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• rachelinwonderland November 2, 2008 at 7:35 p.m.

  I think that years ago the argument against fur was mainly "Why would you wear another animal's skin?" Or "Fur is murder". And anti-fur protesters got asked "Why are you wearing leather shoes?" But look at the underground and unregulated fur trade now (ten years of millions of animals possibly skinned alive - and yes I've seen the PETA footage and can clearly see why Ralph Lauren dropped fur from their lines after watching it, and why Burberry won't buy fur from China now). We have a new issue guys - it's not just about "Fur is murder" but that "Fur is torture". New problem - because the situation has escalated big time. And people still do not boycott Versace, Gucci, Harrods nor the music of those pop stars who promote the wearing of fur.

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• <3 Animalz <3 November 1, 2008 at 7:35 p.m.

  I agree with Babycakes...WHY would someone want to wear animal fur? To kill an animal for it's fur is outrageously cruel! I have the RSPCA website as my homepage and a few months ago, the main headline was 'Are you REALLY buying fake fur?' It was trying to tell people that you don't know what you're buying. Dont buy fur full STOP!!

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• Babycakes...x November 1, 2008 at 7:27 p.m.

  I dont think that people should kill, skin and wear animals, I mean, its gross, why cant people just wear the fake fur. It looks the same so why do people have too have the real stuff, all it does it hurt the animals.

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• amy1707 October 31, 2008 at 4:45 p.m.

  I am most deffinatly against the killing of animals simply for their fur as i think this is a cruel and immoral and simply a waste. However if the rest of the animal is goign to be eaten then i generally dont see the problem. As in the case of sheepskin rugs or rabbit fur coats in the case that the animal meat is eaten i think this is reasonable.

  I do believe that if a species is endangered then more precautions should be taken but people need to put it into context.

  but, if you think about it, how is a mink farm for fur any different from a sheep/cow/pig farm?? they are both killed for human use.

  Personally i wouldnt like a fur coat myself but i think people often jump to conclusions and that there is much to much hype over it.

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• nige October 31, 2008 at 12:58 p.m.

  im a tough bloke but i cryied when i saw this sick and evil trade, i cant see why fur has made a come back when its so not needed.

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• Chrissie October 31, 2008 at 11:53 a.m.

  I am glad to see such a strength of feeling here about the fur trade. I too watched the PETA video and the McCartney programme. After watching both I e-mailed the European Union and the Chinese Embassey. I tried to get hold of the British Olympic team too but failed. The EU have now banned the import of dog and cat skin but sadly the trade continues in other parts of the world. I am haunted by what I saw and the screams of the animals is still inside my head, I doubt it will ever leave.

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• Dovey66 October 30, 2008 at 7:04 p.m.

  Never have liked real fur unlesss of course the animals are still wearing it. My views will never change and they are ..... 'Leave the fur where it belongs on the animal'

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• hello_kitty_ October 28, 2008 at 10:14 p.m.

  basically i agree with emma2008

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• emma2008 October 28, 2008 at 9:34 p.m.

  how can anybody kill such beautiful creatures, me and my partner sat and watched kill it skin it wear it and i couldnt stop crying it was so distressing, what do people get out of it, all they care about is money which is sick.
  we went ot crete in september and in every shop there were coats ect all made from these beautiful animals, its so wrong but they say they are doing nothing wrong. it needs to be stopped asap.

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• Mags53 October 23, 2008 at 5:50 p.m.

  maisiemouse - sheepskin rugs - I would not want one myself BUT at least the animal from which it came was primarly killed for its meat and the rug is a by-product of that. I don't mind using the skin if I eat the meat (all leather products fall into this category) BUT I object most strongly to killing just for the skin. I also object to raising badly and causing pain at the point of death.

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• maisiemouse October 22, 2008 at 10:01 a.m.

  when i went to get a new carpet there was about 7 baskets full of sheepskin rugs. they were all dyied different colours i looked on the underside and saw skin- i said to myself no. i went on a shopping spree with my mates the other day and we saw a window dressed in all sorts of fur and skins. my friends stood in awe while i, in my head imagined what revolting desturbed people could do something so horrible.THIS IS DISCUSTING. IT MUST BE STOPPED.

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• beeonca October 13, 2008 at 6:47 a.m.

  I think that is the horriblest saying ive eva herd in my life
  howz this
  dont even think about killing it
  dont even think about skining it
  and dont even think about wearing it
  mmmmmmmmmmm i think thats much better

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• HeadieM October 11, 2008 at 1:42 p.m.

  In my opinion there is nothing more abhorrent than the suffering of an animal in the name of vanity. People who wear fur disgust me and the treatment of these animals makes me want to cry. Animals are not there for our disposal, this is as much their world as it is ours. Fur clothing is just so unnecessary.

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• Kimi Ann October 8, 2008 at 6:01 a.m.

  I think it is nightmarous to wear real animal fur, escpecially if it has been killed just for its fur. I have seen things like snake skin bags, all my friends think they look so good, but i own two snakes so it makes me feel sick. I dont understand how people are able to own them. I like it on the movie Ace Ventura where in his own cooky way he also hates fur.

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• rokinrhia11 October 5, 2008 at 10:09 a.m.

  i hate wearing fur unless its faux fur then thats a different matter.

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• poppy October 2, 2008 at 6:01 p.m.

  i look at a beautiful animal and cant imagine why anyone would want to kill it for its fur. this is such a monstrous thing to do, as we all have warm clothes and i think fur wearing is a dreadful, cruel and unecessary thing to do, faux fur is just as good as real fur, so come on everybody, lets campaign to stop the fur trade, now!!!!

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• Emma October 1, 2008 at 3:55 p.m.

  i think wearing real fur is so wrong, esspecially since fake fur has got so good at replicating the real stuff in the years.
  i think it is about time stuff like this became illegal.
  it purelly because people have a chip on there shoulder and want to say "oh no darling, of course its real".
  that really makes me sick.
  and people who try to justify there actions by saying that back many many years ago its was normal to wear animal skin as it was all we had. yes that is true.
  but
  1. we have much more caring materials to use now.
  2. in those periods we at least used every part of the animal, for our surival as clothes, houses, food, ect ect and so the animal's body was not waisted and just thrown away.

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• Emma October 1, 2008 at 3:55 p.m.

  3. we didnt kill 100's or 1000's at a time.
  4. we never ran the risk of making an animal instict forever because of it.

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• happy_lucy September 29, 2008 at 7:59 p.m.

  I think the idea of wearing real animal fur is horrible, mean and really cruel.

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• Sxc-ShanniieXx September 23, 2008 at 4:46 p.m.

  Wearing real fur is sooooo wrong, I've never worn real fur and never will! I propa luv animals and i think wearing fur is disguisting. Animals shouldnt be tortured just for fur collars and stuff y not use fake fur?
  IT IS THE MOST AWFUL THING TO HEAR AND KNOW THAT ANIMLS ARE DIEING FOR MODELS CLOTHES AND REGULAR PEOPLES CLOTHES!

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• squigglegirl September 23, 2008 at 3:43 p.m.

  I think that wearing fur is terrible! I don't even think fake fur should be warn because it gives out the wrong message and people might think it is real fur!

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• whippet September 20, 2008 at 9:36 p.m.

  Killing any animal for its fur/skin to make an already ugly person supposedly look more glamorous should be stopped. Wearing a dead animal does not improve your looks. If you are that ugly...try putting a bag over your head...you will certainly look better than wearing a carcass!!

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• shakeyjake September 19, 2008 at 5:49 p.m.

  Whilst i dont disagree that the methods that animals are farmed and killed is wrong and often horrendously cruel, i wonder how many people who have posted on here eat meat and weather leather shoes!

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• Animallover1994 September 18, 2008 at 6:04 p.m.

  Wearing fur is wrong. People like Keira Knightly should stop wearing fur it's abad example to others and it is FAR TOO CRUEL. If people want to wear fur they should wear fake fur. Places like Harrod's should stop selling real fur the methods of getting the fur is repulsive. How would people like it if animals started skinning us and wearing our skin?

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• Mags53 September 18, 2008 at 1:27 a.m.

  did you know that the most common way of buying dog and cat skin items was buying cuddly toys made in China?
  The Chinese eat dog meat as we eat cow, pig, sheep, etc. BUT the way in which they're kept and killed is one of the mosy truly atrocious things done to animals anywhere in the world AND the world very much turned a blind eye by allowing and watching the Olympics in China - and yes, I watched and cheered team GB on so am guilty. I didn't watch the programme on the fur trade BUT having watched Pedigree Dogs Exposed and knowing how truly biased that was (despite them having hours of film from the KC and breeders about health programmes in many breeds) I no longer trust the BBC to deliver a balanced and factual documentary - so what do we do? where can we go to find out THE TRUTH!?

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• LOUNUMBER1 September 15, 2008 at 3:34 p.m.

  I do not watch programmes on television that are about people who like wearing fur, whether or not the fur is so called 'ethical'. I do not wear fur at all. I do not wear fake fur or so called 'ethical' fur. I have joined the 'WWF'
  { The ' World Wildlife Fund For Nature'} and the ' Born Free Foundation'. I have adopted all of the animals with the 'WWF', including a tiger. I have got 'Platinum Member' membership of the 'Born Free Foundation'. I have also adopted two adult female lions and a pack of Ethiopian wolves with the 'Born Free Foundation'. I do not agree with people spending alot of money to wear fur for fashion. I think that wearing fur is cruel and the idea of wearing fur is cruel. I buy merchandise from the 'WWF' and the 'Born Free Foundation' catalogues. I also do not agree with hunting animals, such as lions, for so called 'sport', even if the animals are kept in a place where they are only used for that purpose, I still think that it is cruel. Wolves used to live in the United Kingdom, but they were hunted to extinction. Wild animals, such as the tiger, are now also facing extinction. If people continue to abuse animals for profit for so called fashion and sport, the animals will become extinct in the wild and it is cruel to keep them in captivity, such as in a zoo or a safari park. Some people are upsetting the balance of nature by killing animals, such as predators like the lion and the tiger. They are also causing environmental destruction and climate change because they are chopping down trees and destroying the wild animals environment, such as the Bengal tiger in India. I have met David Attenbourgh and he signed a book for me. I am buying all of his books and DVDs, including 'Planet Earth'. I am watching his programme ' Tiger. Spy in the Jungle' again. They got an elephant to place cameras disguised as tree logs to film a female tiger and her tiger cubs growing up. The female tiger was beautiful where she belonged in the wild and her tiger cubs were very cute. I thought that people joined the 'RSPCA' because they want to stop cruelty to animals. I wanted to join the 'RSPCA' because I wanted to stop cruelty to animals. I think that if a person wanted to stop cruelty to animals they would not support fur. I want to stop cruelty to animals and I do not support fur. I buy and sell raffle tickets for the 'WWF' and the 'Born Free Foundation'. One day, I am going to a another country to see the lions in the wild with the 'Born Free Foundation'.

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• rspca under 8teenz September 13, 2008 at 4:40 p.m.

  I think it all is completely wrong!
  It is not nice to think that people Kill animals just for there fur its like comparing life to money put it that way imagine it people shooting the poor animal which has done nothing at all to deserve being killed.Now I always ask is it leather? or Is it real fur you always need to be cautious and curious to what the product your buying really is.

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• Sophie. September 12, 2008 at 2:44 p.m.

  It's disusting the way some people think that it's ok to kill animals for fur.
  It's not like there are no other clothes to wear - they're just doing it for the sake of doing it! At the end of the day they know they're dong wrong, but the don't care! Animals can feel pain, but they don't understand why some sad human beings are torturing them! There should be zero tolerance for things like that. They're capturing animals, ripping the skin from them and sometimes they're still alive in unbearable pain! It's horrifying!

  I don't even know why people like wearing something that used to be on a LIVE ANIMAL - in these days, if you like that sort of stuff there is something called fake fur! It annoys me so much when i think that some human beings can actually have the nerve to take an animals life for the sake of fashion (which to be honest isn't even that important, aslong as you have clothes!) But then some people actually wear it! o0o0o0o!

  But i am happy that there are decent people out there with a bit of sense trying to stop it!

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• ILHehir September 10, 2008 at 7:12 p.m.

  Animals should not be killed for our pleasure! I mean how would you like it if someone came along killed you and turned you into a coat! And the the thought that people walk around showing thier brand new fur coat like the animal was never alive! Well it might feel nice but it feels even better when its on the animal it belongs to!

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• cocoablush September 10, 2008 at 7 p.m.

  i think u shouldnt wear fur because animals are killed inhumanely and that is cold blooded MURDER!
  Humans should just wear clothes that are not involved with killing animals

  :}

  ;?

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• WolfGirl September 9, 2008 at 3:19 p.m.

  I would never wear animal fur, and I always check to make sure that it isn't fur if I buy something. I don't know how people could basically wear animals, becuase that's what they are doing. I bet they don't relise it though. It's pointless wearing fur - you might as well wear fake fur.

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• Horse Love September 9, 2008 at 11:24 a.m.

  I recorded the programme but when I watched it I swiched off after a bit as it was far too gory. I already know quite a lot about that sort of thing so I didn't think I was being a wimp. There is so many nice fasions around that don't affect animals, why do we need it?

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• Twiggy September 7, 2008 at 3:14 p.m.

  I did not see the programme however I have seen footage of animals being tortured & skinned alive on the PETA website. This barbaric process is the most horrific, disgusting, unbelieveable thing I have ever witnessed in my life, it brought me to tears and I am continually haunted by the images I have seen. Programmes like this need to be shown frequently, as it is to easy for people to ignore and switch off. They should be shown not just in this country but worldwide, as I do not believe that the majority of people in general know what goes on at these Farms. Some of my friends and family who saw the prgramme certainly thought that the animals were dead before they were skinned, how shocked they were! Why was the plight of these intelligent beautiful animals not highlighted more during the olympics? This was an ideal platform to use the world media to raise awareness.
  I certainly have no compassion for people who do not show compassion for others including animals. I support the PETA & WSPA anti fur campaigns but what else can be done?

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• dog lover September 3, 2008 at 2:43 p.m.

  i don't belive it's right to wear animal fur for clothing .We can live without killing animals fasion. If every one works together and dont buy these items this madness will STOP.

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• lil_los@hotmail.co.uk August 31, 2008 at 7:47 p.m.

  how can people look into the eyes of a poor defensless animal and know that they are going to kill it for fashion, i just find these people dispicable. what kind of world are we living in if people can adopt such a cruel view on life! i just do not understand them and i will never bring myself to underestand them! if they took the pain and hurt of those creatures and went through it themselves they would then see the pain, cruelty and torture inflicted upon these animals is terribly wrong!

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• Kirsty_LFC August 29, 2008 at 5:40 p.m.

  I didn't watch the programme, but I based my coursework on the fur trade last year. It's truly sick, the lengths that some people will go to because of vanity. Real fur shouldn't be used in fashion, there are so many other materials available as substitutes. I love fashion, but i totally disagree with wearing fur, there is no need for it!!

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• Secret August 29, 2008 at 9:38 a.m.

  Why wear fur when there are so many other materials you can wear and look fab in. I can't stand the look of fur as i automatically think - where did that come from. Some poor animal has been killed to make 30cm squared of a fur coat. The poor animals have no way to voice there opinions so we have to do it for them!

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• janey August 28, 2008 at 10:02 p.m.

  I believe like humans were predominately born to have skin, many animals have fur, feather,leather and it is meant to be on the animal not on humans - we can wear man made fibres for warmth, definately not take it from the animals - to kill something for its fur,skin,is barbaric and needs to be stopped completely.

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• Mags53 August 27, 2008 at 9:23 a.m.

  The killing of any animal just for its skin and coat is wrong; the keeping and killing of any animal in an inhumane way is wrong. Our government MUST take firmer action to make sure that no fur from places like China EVER gets to these shores. I'd like to pose a question for all of you vegetarians out there -how do you cope without leather goods? If you don't eat the meat don't wear the skin!! Seems a good enough rule to live by to me. And to those veggies who eat fish (as if that's not an animal) how can you reconcile that when they are just left to suffocate to death in huge vats on board ships.

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• k9kathy August 25, 2008 at 5:34 p.m.

  A fur coat always, but always looks better & fits better on the original owner.
  Naomi Campbell may think she looks beautiful in fur but to my mind theres nothing uglier than a human wearing the coat of a dead animal for the sake of vanity.

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• greebo2007 August 25, 2008 at 3:27 p.m.

  I wear real fur every day, without any cruelty, my lovely cats and dog happily donate (shed) fur for me to wear all time and thats the only way real fur should be worn, by animals enjoying life with a doting human and leaving pressies of fur all over them, the house, their friends or by animals living in the wild. Dead animal furs worn in the so called name of fashion just makes the wearer look like a 1970's prostitute, it looks cheap and nasty and is a very cruel trade. Ban all dead real furs. Real fur only looks good on a living animal.

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• Gillski August 24, 2008 at 4:48 p.m.

  I didn't see the program but I don't need to!
  There is no excuse - none. Wearing fur is wrong - anybody remember the old campagn that said it takes 12 dumb bitches to make a coat and only one to wear it. I thought that was perfect. Why did it become socially acceptable to wear it again?
  My appologies to anybody living in 15ft snow in northern Alaska, maybe I could see the reasoning there but then again if you're reading this get your credit card out and order some synthetics!!

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• KayleighLouise August 23, 2008 at 11:48 a.m.

  i missed the documentary :(
  ive also seen the video of animals being skinned alive (this video was filmed in the garden of PETA's HQ - with PETA members killing the animals)

  but no fur is 'ethical' never has been and never will be - same goes for leather - its just wrong. animals do not deserve to be treated this way.

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• cuthy93 August 23, 2008 at 10:51 a.m.

  fake fur is cheaper and looks just as 'good' as real fur (not that I wear either).
  skinning an animal is like skinning a human, it's painful and emotionally and physically scarring.
  animals can still be alive after this and can you even IMAGINE the pain they're going through?
  I think that before humans do this to animals they should experience the pain and scarring these animals go through.

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• animal_lover96 August 23, 2008 at 8:56 a.m.

  Skinning Animals is disscusting and is truley animal cruelty!!!
  I had to do a debate about animal crulety at school and the things i found out made me angry and sad!
  Why can't people just leave animals alone its like killing another human and when young children kill their pets its training and promoting the killing and crulety towards humans!
  ;(

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• Marc August 19, 2008 at 11:53 p.m.

  Ethical fur is a misnomer, an oxymoron even, when it is considered that all fur production is for pure profit and idle pleasure.
  I've seen dozens of cases of fur and food production in Chinese and Korean fur farms and dog meat markets, but they seem to slip out of the public conscience as quickly as they they arrive. China still gets away with selling things like toy mice meant for cats, yet ironically made from cat fur, but still people trade with China on a massive scale with no questions asked.
  It boils down to economics, they won't boycott China because they think they can't afford to.

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• Clairebaz August 19, 2008 at 2:12 p.m.

  i seen a video, and it showed animals still alive after they have been skinned!!!!!!!!!!! my heart bleeds for these poor animals. how can people be so cruel, my mind is scarred with these pictures they give me nightmares. i don't no how people can promote this by wearing fur have these people not seen what happens? i would never wear fur and would not accociate with people who accepted it.

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• tolantra August 19, 2008 at 12:57 p.m.

  I couldn't bring myself to watch this program I seen the advert and that broke my heart. Wearing fur is cruel and not needed, humans call themselves civilized yet they cause animals such pain.

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• CAF August 18, 2008 at 1:01 p.m.

  I could not bring myself to watch the programme, but I admire those who could as it needs to be addressed promptly. I am an avid animal lover and cannot bear to think of the suffering the animal must go through for someone to wear it because it is "fashionable". There is absolutely no need for it, animals fur was created for them specifically, to keep them warm and waterproof them. Human beings who wear real fur must have no feelings or conscious at all, and no right to have this on them, they are clearly mising a heart, to me it just shows what horrible people they actually are. If I saw someone being horrible to an animal I would do the same to them - animals are beautiful defenceless creatures who deserve to be free to live in their own habitat in safety not in fear of their skins being taken from them. I am utterly appalled that some human beings are so unkind, it makes me lose faith in the human race to be quite honest, thank goodness for the lovely people who sign up here, it puts some faith back into you. We need to stop this hideously cruel process - right now!

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• zoe louise August 17, 2008 at 3:36 p.m.

  Yes i remember a model shown dragging fur and blood all over the cat walk, it was a very powerful statement and attracted alot of attention. But now Models and cat walks and more obsessed with the fashion side of it all now, i think as time goes by people care less and less aslong as they make money. If people stop buying fur such vasts amounts of it will stop being produced and more animals will survive.

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• Gillyflower August 16, 2008 at 2:56 p.m.

  It makes me both angry and sad to see a practice which we thought was pretty much in the past, is now becoming acceptable again. Is there no end to hyman stupidity and vanity? Perhpas we should revive the old campaign with the model dragging a fur behind her, leaving a trail of blood. Does anyone else remember it or am I the oldest person on the forum?

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• BettyBeatdown August 16, 2008 at 9:55 a.m.

  I missed it =/ but i did see it advertised. What was the reason for putting it on the tv anyway? To make people wear fur? As everyone can agree theres really no point in fur, apart from keeping animals nice and snugg and alive, we really don't need fur for fashion to look like we have money or whatever. We have other clothing which makes us look good and everything. But what would people say if we were to skin a human and put it on an animal?

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• nicolaeyah2k7 August 15, 2008 at 5:10 p.m.

  I watched the programme and I was shocked about what I saw. I don't wear fur and Iv always check that if there is fur on clothing that it is Fake Fur not real fur. After watching the programme it made me wonder how people could wear fur knowing that the animal was cruely treated and in most cases tortured. I then learnt that some people skin the animals alive and that made me feel sick how somebody could treat a animal like that. The pain that the animal must have to go through must be excruciating. And no animal deserves to go through it. I'm glad that the programme was done because now people who watched it know where the fur comes from and hopefully people may start to reliase that using fur for fashion is wrong.

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• ellierw87 August 15, 2008 at 3:18 p.m.

  I have just read the news section on the British Fur website, and they claim that killing animals such a fur seals for their skins is necessary in order to keep the population down and keep fish stockks from dwindling.

  Am i the only one who gets totally infuriated when people who support fur say that killing for fur is important for 'keeping the population of certain animals down'? Who are we to play God like that? Animals were put on this earth with the right to flourish, just as humans were. I do not believe that humans should hold themselves higher than animals and begin to meddle with their continuity. I am totally, and utterrly disgusted by the fur trade. I condemn anyone who wears real fur and can only wish that eventually, something will be done to save those poor animals, who are being controlled and mistreated, from a truly dispicable and undeniably unnecessary death. The point is it is just too easy for people to ignore animal support websites, or Tv documentaries, they can just switch over and pretend that they never saw them.

  If there is any hope for us generate enough support to save the animals, there has to be a better way to promote the true disgrace of the fur trade, even if shock tactics have to be used, I say use them. It has to be worth a try.

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• Get in! August 15, 2008 at 12:20 p.m.

  I saw this advertised on tele and could not believe they was actually showing this on tele. And the woman on it, she is soo ignorant. i strongly disagree with wearing fur, ins not humane at all. Killing an innocent animal so someone can think they look good in a fur coat. its absolutley horrendous. Should be stopped. when people realise this isnt fashion, its not humane. it will stop. we hope.

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• jenni August 15, 2008 at 11:53 a.m.

  I am completley against using animals for fur however i do think that wearing leather shoes or a leather coat and eating meat isnt that different.

  There is no difference from buying cheap meat where the animal has had an awful life and has been kept in cruel and disgusting conditions to going out and buying a fur coat.
  Both animals would of been kept and killed for a product.

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• 2kartik August 15, 2008 at 12:24 a.m.

  It is impossible to imagine that humans can be so cruel towards animals. No animal deserves to die so painfully. In fact it is the need created by the fashion markets that fuels this trade. When people completely stop buying fur, this cruelty will end.

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• zoe louise August 13, 2008 at 5:36 p.m.

  I watched kill it, skin it, wear it. It was disgusting and cruel. What they do to these poor animals is unfair and not right! people that buy fur are making this trade carry on and more animals have to suffer, dogs in Chinese film footage were beying skinned alive! foxes were kept in cages there whole lifes with no vetinary attention and some very in seriously dangerous conditions, one even chewed of the bottom of his leg with stress. this has got to stop now, all the animals that are slatured in the most awful way, just for a fur coat.

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• Sue August 13, 2008 at 4:31 p.m.

  I missed the programme, but saw the trailer. Most of the images in the trailer I had seen previously, but I am glad I missed the programme because it would have left me in an absolute rage. Animals should never be treated inhumanely for any reason, even for food, but it is particularly sickening to see them tortured for fashion. Fur belongs on the back of the animal who was born with it - nowhere else, and until people get this message, the fur trade will flourish. Fur from China is routinely mislabelled, and the only answer is not to buy fur. If it looks fake but you are not sure, don't buy it. The media could help a lot more by screening more programmes like this. Show the graphic images, show them on prime time TV and if necessary show them again and again until people get the message. Lots of people genuinely do not know this sort of cruelty exists, and unless they went trawling the internet, they would never know. How about a programme about the side of China we weren't shown in all the glitzy footage from Beijing. Show the Chinese trade in fur and meat up for what it is, barbaric and inhumane, and leave the civilised nations in absolutely no doubt what they are buying and where it originated. We will only end the fur trade by killing the demand, by making it unfashionable to be seen in a fur coat. So called celebrities wearing fur should be challenged about it by the public who made them what they are. I have never bought fur and would not buy it in a million years. I always make some comment such as "nice cat" to anyone I see in a fur coat. I don't try to be offensive, just to make them think. Glad so many of you feel as I do, but it's the rest out there who bother me!

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• lucy August 13, 2008 at 3:53 p.m.

  when i watched this it mad me so angry i felt so useless i felt like going to all them animals and bringing them home into a warm place it makes me sick to think that people could even consider doing that to animals animals are so friendly i have two cats myself and i wouldnt let them go through that for anything ever since i saw it i cant get it out of my head sometimes i sit down and cry an di watched gordon ramsay and they went over to france and chose a horse to slaughter i mean that is over the top it makes me so upset to even think of it it has to be stopped if there so desparate to wear fur they can wear fake

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• April Jane August 12, 2008 at 4:22 p.m.

  OMG, i have just been looking on the wonderous facebook for groups to join to support working towards stopping the fur trade and i came across this site:
  http://www.britishfur.co.uk/main/news
  i espically could not believe it when i read the education tab for understanding fur.. Now am i just reading this with wonky eyes, or is this site actually saying that its ok to kill for fashion?
  can not believe what i have just read!

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• shanouck August 12, 2008 at 11:22 a.m.

  YOU MAY NOT KNOW THIS!
  China produces 85% of the fur on the planet and has no animal welfare laws to protect animals. Fur animals in China suffer one of the most cruel and savage practices ever heard against defenseless beings. The hideous cruelty is hidden from consumers who may not know that each fur article comes with an unimaginable amount of agony. All this in the name of fashion.
  
  The Swiss Animal Protection Agency's investigators found shocking footage from an investigation into the Chinese dog and cat fur industry which revealed the slaughter of millions of dogs and cats: Bludgeoned, hanged, bled to death, and strangled with wire nooses so that their fur can be turned into trim and trinkets. Their fur is often mislabeled as that of other animals and exported into the U.S, the European Union, and other countries, where it may be sold to unsuspecting customers.
  If buying fur products has not put you off then Go to:- www.antifursociety.org.

  I would not associate my self with any one who wears fur" whether there family or friends...Shame them all, get the message out there!

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• arani14 August 11, 2008 at 8:47 p.m.

  I'm glad i can actually talk about it with people. i just feel like i want to go to the Chinese fur farms and let all the animals run away from the cages.

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• Lindsaybertram August 11, 2008 at 8:26 p.m.

  I also watched the programme last night & I was shocked at what I saw. I couldn’t get the image of the fox out of my head. I also really feel that this programme should be shown on BBC1 at prime time. Having lived in Germany for several years (where most people wear fur ) it had started to become acceptable to me, and I could almost understand why people wore it in the extreme cold winters, but last nights TV programme was a reality check. Its not acceptable in any country under any circumstances. I do honestly believe that 99% of people who choose to wear fur are ignorant to what goes on in these fur farms and if they did know I’m sure most of them wouldn’t wear it. But how do we raise awareness?? What can I do as an individual, because I do want to do something?

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• Pen August 11, 2008 at 8:01 p.m.

  I watched some bits of this programme although I had tried to avoid it as I knew enough of what goes on. the ghastly truth is that humans think they have the automatic right to treat animals as they see fit. I could never wear fur, even if animals are farmed and killed humanely, which I doubt, how would people then distinguish between legally and illegally gained pelts, but I think we have no right to inflict such pain and suffering on the other inhabitants of this world, and I hope that these people are eventually caught and prosecuted. As for the Danish trader who said that he couldn't care less where his pelts came from, I hope he rots in hell.

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• ajsmith123 August 11, 2008 at 6:47 p.m.

  The British Government has got to do something here or ordinary citizens like me are going to start shooting these bastard chinese people ourselves.
  This programme should be shown at prime time and people asked to watch it through. Its the only thing that we can do to bear testament to the suffering of these poor animals.
  So come on RSPCA DO something and get this situation stopped now.
  People have to understand what this trade is really all about

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• diamond iom August 11, 2008 at 5:37 p.m.

  I have never been so horrified in my entire life i have not been able to get that image out of my head all day of that poor fox blinking its eye lashes which was the only fur it had left, it is the most horrendous thing i have ever seen in my life, i have not been able to concentrate at all at work all day, i am such a huge animal lover and i really dont think i will ever get over those poor animals i really want to do something to help, i am in tears just writing this and i saw that programs last night!

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• April Jane August 11, 2008 at 4:42 p.m.

  I too, watched the C4 programme last night and was completly shocked by what i saw, i forced myself to watch the 2nd half of the documentry in hope that there was some kind of positive spin on the issue but alas there was not. I simply can not comprehend why some ppl treat animals in this way, put simply its disgusting! But what can be done to stop this awful trade? when celebrities are endorsing this ever growing "trend".

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• rachel2105 August 11, 2008 at 3:33 p.m.

  I watched this programme last night against my better judgement, as I cried for hours afterwards.
  The footage of the fur farm in China was truly horrific, and the image of the fox skinned alive lifting it's head will haunt me for a long long time. People like Jennifer Lopez and Madonna should be forced to go to the PETA website and watch the video in full so they can see exactly where their "luxurious" fur coats came from.
  I can't believe that this barbaric trade has been allowed to continue into the 21st century. But then, China has the most horrendous human rights record, so why would they care about animals and their welfare? I can't believe that anyone would wear fur after watching this programme, as they would never truly know how much the animal had suffered in the supposed name of "fashion".

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• RebeccaLot August 11, 2008 at 12:57 p.m.

  I had no idea there was such a market for fur these days, certainly not in the 'civilised' west.
  That was the first documentary to make me cry, feel sick and angry all in one go. It made me want to go and punch Madonna in the face for wearing that coat. Celebrities lead fashion and send out a message to the world that it's okay to wear fur.
  If 80% of the world's fur is coming from China, and there are no international welfare regulations, of course the designers are just buying the cheapest fur they can get. The furs from tortured animals, skinned alive.
  That footage shocked me more than anything I've ever seen. Made me ashamed to be human. What an evil species we are.
  How can we stop this?

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• Bev August 11, 2008 at 9:29 a.m.

  I have come to realise just how very ignorant these people are. Who in their right mind would be prepared to allow animals to suffer in such inhumane, disgustingly cruel ways so that they can wear a fur coat?? It is insane!

  These animals are treated in such a way that anybody who chooses to wear fur should be totally ashamed of themselves; they call themselves human??

  It is so sad to see that the 'Admired Bunch' are setting the fur look right back on trend again. . . J-Lo, Kate Moss etc are revamping the fur look and in doing so are continuing to keep the animal slaughter toll very high. Hope you are proud of yourselves girls.

  What an absolutely rediculous thing to do when you are at such a height in fashion; i hope you eventually get to see some of the footage that had so many of us crying last night.

  But then i guess that raises another question: do people like you even have a heart?

  For everybody who stands their ground and will not wear fur, nor support the trade in any way... WELL DONE! It is us who are keeping the animal slaughtering numbers down (as much as we can) and we who should feel proud of the fact that we are not total hair heads who put fashion over and above humanity.

  Keep up the good morals everyone!

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• arani14 August 11, 2008 at 9:25 a.m.

  i watched it too last night, but the thing i found most annoying is how she thought it was acceptable to kill in places like denmark and canada(woordlands)because it was 'humane'. Firstly in denmark they are put into a machine that is all we know. she shouldn't of come to a conclusion without actually seeing the death. She also said that they dont have to see each other die. Well, thats not true they probably will inside that enclosed machine. Also, she did it again, in the canadian woodlands, they killed a beaver. I thought that was porbably the worst. It was drowned trying to survive for 20 minutes, trying to bite the trap.Im sure if she saw the death she would of done something.

  Everyone found it shocking in the chinese fur farms because we saw how it was killed and the tortured, which is terrible but i would of liked a better comparison by actually WATCHING this other animals die to decide if it is humane.

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• shanouck August 11, 2008 at 9:20 a.m.

  I am absolutly horrified, all i can see when i look at my animals faces as they look up at me our the tortured faces of the animals that appeared on the programe" I new this is what goes on-and have had my say about it before" hopefully thro this programe more and more people will see what happends to the poor animals in order for them to have a coat"...Makes me sick and very Angry every time i see a woman in a fur coat or with an item made ov fur...(I like it better on the animal)and thats were it should stay.
  These people that do this to the animals have NO hearts NO feelings NO NOTHING". And if i can stop just ONE animal from going thro this suffering it would mean the world to me! Even if i could ov put that poor animal that was skinned out misery i would do so...how long do they lay there skinless, raw and in pain? What help can you do but to help end there suffering from the hands of barbaric head cases...Any one that hurts an animal when i am around want to watch out".

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• Lola boo August 10, 2008 at 11:16 p.m.

  I watched this programme and it was horrific. Anyone who wears fun should be made to watch the video of animals being skinned alive. Those images will haunt me forever. What can be done to help stop this evil torture? Who do we have to petition? What can be done? This was not comfortable viewing but people need to be made aware of the reality. The presenter said she was happy to wear beaver fur as she thought the way it was killed was ok. That is because she didn't see it drown and fight for life.

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• sexylainey August 10, 2008 at 10:25 p.m.

  It's the hypocrisy that gets me. A society that uses media and government to promote an "environmentally friendly" populace, where I wake up every morning to find a new litter bin in my front garden...and yet no one seems to be doing anything about these abhorrent practices, all for the sake of fashion. We do not need fur...but for the sake of compromise, the mink farms in Denmark were reasonably acceptable. The animals have no quality of life, but as Merilees said, our farming practices are much worse, so we need to clean up our own act first. At least the animals were killed in a humane manner. Anything else, whether it be buying fur from trapped animals in America, or God forbid, fur from animals skinned alive in China, is an abomination. Everything is about money. Promoting being kind to the environment is all about money, it's all a joke. Nothing will be done for these poor animals because there is no way to save them, and make money. We can recycle and do whatever else, because pretty much guaranteed, someone, somewhere is making money out of it. As a species, we have a history of animal cruelty. We think ourselves better than animals, more enlightened and intelligent. In truth we are worse - we know what we're doing is wrong and we do it anyway. And who wears the fur? WAGS and similar, who on the whole contribute sooo much to society and the advancement of the species as a whole. It makes me sick, but money talks and I can't see anything changing

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• fern09 August 10, 2008 at 10:16 p.m.

  I have seen many of the images and videos shown before as i feel it is important to be aware of the either illegal or in-humane trades that involve animals. They are some of the most horrific and upsetting that i have ever come across. It pains me to know that this is happening right now and that it is unlikely to stop any time soon. People who involve themselves in this trade are pure evil, the ones who wear it just as much as the ones that murder the poor defensless animal. As a vegetarian i see no need whatsoever to use an animal for anything other than companionship, or to enjoy within its own natural habitat.

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• romy-baybee August 10, 2008 at 10 p.m.

  Hello again. I am SO dicraced that they dont care where the fur comes from its SICK!!!!!!

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• romy-baybee August 10, 2008 at 9:56 p.m.

  I am watching the program at the moment and i feel it is the most in-humane thing i have ever seen. The worst part was when the farmer took the fox and hit it repetedly on the ground. I think its sick and as i have always said, treat others (including animals) as you wish to be treated. So i suppose they want to be treated like the animals are being treated. Well im first in line to do the same to them.

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• voiceforanimals August 10, 2008 at 9:43 p.m.

  There can never be a justification for the destruction of an animal - be it cruelly or what they call 'humane' for fur. It is completely unnecessary. I think we have become accustomed to the idea that eating meat is ok, but for me now that is becoming an issue, I buy from 'farm assured' sources but still do we ever really know how the animals are treated? I've heard horrific neglect stories around organically produced meat. Hopefully we can raise awareness and disgust as a result of these kind of programmes and in time people will awaken and feel the pain of the animals and realise how wrong this fur trade and in-humane agriculture is.

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• Horse Love August 10, 2008 at 8:56 a.m.

  I think wearing fur is disgusting. I feel uncomfortable eating meat and try to eat as little as possible but at least I can understand why people do it. It is part of the food chain after all, we were meant to eat meat but wearing fur isn't part of any food chain. The way they farm it is really awfull and there is much more animal friendly trends around. They ought to ban it!

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• gregquimpo August 10, 2008 at 8:52 a.m.

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVRXmXOxx9Y

  THE ANTI-RABIES ACT OF 2007 MIGHT JUST END THE WICKED DOG MEAT TRADE!

  Http://www.allaskalsgotoheaven.blogspot.com

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• tonyb73 August 9, 2008 at 11:56 p.m.

  If you show me any model or so called 'Supermodel' wearing fur against the animal wearing it, freely running round alive and doing whatever it does naturally there is only one winner and it isnt overpaid, overhyped model.
  I have no problems with anyone kiiling an animal for food and survival purposes such as indiginous / tribal people as they use every last sinew and have done so long before we so called 'civilised' society have been around. Even so called modern day hunters, i.e those who shoot rabbits, pigeons etc for food waste so much its not fair and not right.
  I do eat meat, but i am pretty sure that every part of the animal is used. Not as our ancestors used them, but the meat for food, skin for clothing and the leftover / offal for animal food or whatever, not just skinned for its coat. (Apologies for being graphic)

  Absolute tragedy.

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• daynah06 August 9, 2008 at 11:30 p.m.

  I would never buy a real fur coat. I love animals and to kill them just for their fur is dumb. And I even hate to think about it. I almost start crying when I think about it and its sad. I hate it when people miss treat animals.

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• Kathryn Hemmings August 9, 2008 at 7:55 p.m.

  Fur is not a fashion accessory it is the clothing of a real animal with real feelings unlike the so called human beings who wear the skins of the poor creatures.Saturday 9th August 2008 edition of the Daily Mail highlighted the TV programme to be going out this week.Hopefully it will give exposure to this dreadful cruelty against animals in the world in the name of 'fashion'.

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• Anna_x August 8, 2008 at 6:58 p.m.

  i am definately going to try and watch this programme. i love fashion but i love animals much much more. I would never wear fur and i strongley disagree with it. It is completely unnecessary, there is NO need to wear fur!

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• Clogs August 8, 2008 at 3:16 p.m.

  I am going to watch the programme. I saw in the trailer last night that the presenter says she loves wearing fur. She also said that she'd seen worse conditions for farmed animals, than on one of the fur farms she visits. I hope it's a balanced report, but ultimately that their key message is that fur is an unnessary and very often cruelly produced luxury.

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